He was a good person, and then he came here,
and then he turned bad.
It's been really affecting my husband the most.
He feels like his life was taken as a sacrifice.
It kind of creeps me out to be here by myself.
I'm hearing "the Devil's Triangle."
I just had no idea it was this extreme and this bad.
"Get out. Get out of here.
Get out now."
And I just feel fear.
My name is Amy Allan.
This is like Grand Central Station for the dead.
I see dead people.
They have pain that they suffered.
I speak to dead people.
She hates them, hates them.
And they speak to me.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
It's a demon. It's Satan.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
What was the body count, what happened?
And I know every person, every house has secrets.
I don't know if it's a demon or not,
but it sure as hell looks like one.
It's my job to reveal them.
I feel like I'm crazy.
But Steve and I never speak...
We never communicate during an investigation.
...until the very end...
I don't even want to show you this.
...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
I just don't want anything to happen to my mother.
...or time to get out.
You have to get out.
I'm back in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
because I got a call from a woman named Diane.
She went and opened up a tattoo parlor in an old building.
Now all hell has broken loose.
Artists don't want to be there alone,
and customers don't think it's safe.
Look, I know the tattoo crowd,
and they don't scare that easily,
so for them to call us in for help, it's got to be bad.
It's tough to hide the fact that this is a tattoo parlor,
but I still need to cover leading information,
like artwork, workstations, and personal items
that could influence Amy's findings.
When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk.
There's something bad here.
There's this dead guy.
He kind of felt like he was a good person,
and then he came here, and then he turned bad.
He's like, you know, the devil-influence kind of thing.
Yeah, this place, it's hella confusing, man.
Literally, I'm hearing "the Devil's Triangle,"
and he's just warning us.
He's like, "Just go. Just get out. Just run."
So, Diane, when we spoke on the phone,
it sounded like things were pretty bad.
I mean, what's going on here?
The paranormal activity in the place
has gotten really out of control.
I think it's dangerous, and it's scaring our clients.
It's scaring our artists, and it scares me.
So, Diane, when did stuff start happening?
Two years after we opened, we expanded.
Okay. When we expanded, things got worse.
What's happening?
We're hearing disembodied voices.
We're feeling watched all the time.
Objects are being thrown.
We see shadow figures.
People are being physically touched,
and everyone's been having terrible mood swings.
It's been really affecting my husband the most.
Any reason why?
He's had struggles in the past with mental illness.
He was just diagnosed bipolar.
Okay.
And I feel like whatever's here
amplified all of his symptoms
and made his anxiety and depression way more intense.
I'm very worried about him.
Now, how does your husband feel about
this whole paranormal thing?
He doesn't put much stock into it.
Alright. You think he'd talk to me?
I think you could try.
What are you hoping we can do for you?
I'd really like to know what's here,
and I'd really like to know how to get rid of it.
It just is really depressing to not feel welcome in something
that you put so much passion and love into.
So, Diane, why do you think this stuff is actually happening?
I think it wants us out of this space,
and I think that it's not afraid
to hurt someone to get us out.
The dead dude, he's just, like, crying and freaking out,
and he's like, "Just go.
Just get out before it's too late."
I think that people would hear a man crying.
He made himself real tiny, like, into a ball,
so I think they might see, like, little black balls.
I'm hearing something about some kind of sacrifice ****
going on.
He feels like his life was taken as a sacrifice.
Is that something that might happen to the living here?
Yes.
Okay, so, Diane, why are we over here?
What's going on? I hear a lot of banging,
a lot of knocking,
strange noises that don't really have any cause.
Where are you hearing it exactly?
It seems like in the walls and the ceiling.
It's an old building, though, right? Right.
Could it be the plumbing?
These walls are really thick.
They're concrete, and the plumbing has a distinct sound.
When we hear the noises, it's different.
Okay. Anything else?
Yeah. In the last few months,
we've had a lot of artists with physical illnesses.
People have to take weeks off at a time to recover.
We are definitely missing business because of it.
So, now, is any of this sickness stuff affecting you?
Physically, I don't really get sick,
but the anxiety is really getting to me.
So I usually leave because I feel too anxious
and just like I'm being watched,
like something's close to me, and I don't like it.
Alright. So, anything else?
I see, and a couple other artists
have seen, black figures
out of the corner of our eyes. Okay.
I've also seen black, like, blobs, kind of.
It scares me.
Progressively, it has gotten more and more menacing-feeling,
and the anxiety kicks in, and it just...
Off-the-charts scared.
I'm seeing a couple dead guys up there.
And there's yelling.
There's, like, screaming.
I think that the living would possibly see them.
They would hear them yelling.
I feel very sick and panic.
Very panicky.
I felt like somebody was coming at me.
Like, a male, I think, was coming at me real fast.
They're, like, throwing people down the stairs.
So, the living would feel panic,
like, panic-stricken.
When we expanded into this space
is when things got a little crazy.
So, what's going on?
A dark shadow came out from behind me,
and when I started to walk towards the staircase,
it followed me.
Did you feel like you were about to get mugged?
I mean, how'd it feel? It felt menacing,
and it was just an instinctual "Get out."
Alright. So, what else?
We've had clients complain
while they're getting tattooed that someone touched them
or someone's standing behind them,
and there's no one there.
You realize how lucky you are no one's gotten hurt yet?
Yeah. Alright.
Like, we took the time to build this up,
and it means the world to us, and it's really upsetting.
Alright. Okay.
I'm seeing an older man -- 50s, 60s.
I think he's kind of crazy.
He says he doesn't really belong here,
that he was brought here,
but now since he's here, he feels like he owns it.
This is his.
Does he have any interaction with the living?
Well, I think they hear his fits, when he's, like,
stomping around and hitting things.
He beats on the walls.
He beats on the floors.
He stomps around.
He yells.
I think the living would experience all of these things,
which also means that he could potentially become physical
with living people, and he's like,
"Get out of here. Get out. Get out of here.
Get out now."
So, Shannon, I understand that you and Diane
are business partners. Yeah.
She described some of the stuff that's going on here,
and she thinks it's pretty dangerous.
I mean, you agree with her? I agree.
It's escalating, and it concerns me.
Can I assume you've had experiences?
Yeah. For sure.
Okay, so let's talk about some of them.
One of the first things that I clearly remember
is seeing an apparition upstairs on the second floor.
What'd you see?
I saw a man walking into a room --
black dress shoes and gray dress pants.
Are you sure it wasn't one of the other artists that were here?
Yeah. I'm sure.
I checked. There was nobody there.
So, what else?
Well, just last week, I was tattooing someone,
and my sweatshirt got pulled from behind.
That could be really dangerous with you
holding a needle to someone's skin. Yeah.
So, was there anybody else in the shop
that could have done it? No, no.
And nobody would ever physically touch you.
When I was talking to Diane,
she was telling me about personality changes
with personnel, and mostly with Josh.
Have you noticed it? Yes.
When I agreed to be business partners with him
probably about 5 years ago now,
he was not what he turned into.
Okay, so what kind of changes have you seen in Josh?
It's a lot of stuff.
More depression, but he would have these episodes
where he would be irrational and angry.
And you try talking to him about them later,
and he has no recollection of these events.
So, we've seen this in other cases,
where whatever's in the home
or the business is influencing whoever's there.
Do you think that's what's going on with Josh,
or you think he's just being an ****
I believe it's influencing him.
Okay. So, with all the stuff that's going on here,
did you ever think about just calling it quits
and packing up and leaving?
There have definitely been times
when I've wanted to leave here.
Okay. It's hard.
It really is.
This is my home away from home.
We worked really hard to get here,
and I'd be really devastated to have to leave.
Okay.
Alright.
There is evil here, and it comes up from the ground.
There's three evil entities.
I think they're demons.
And they call this place the Devil's Triangle.
Someone sold their soul,
and now they are coming to collect.
I'm seeing a dead guy in a coffin.
He's the one who sold his soul.
He's the cause of all this.
He, like, legit sold his soul.
He summoned those demon-devil things.
So, after talking to Diane and Shannon,
I wanted to see what their employees had to say.
I was sitting downstairs,
and two pictures fell off the wall.
I was the only one here. Okay.
All of them are having bizarre experiences.
I hear voices.
It tends to be mostly a male kind of shouting.
I can never make out specific words.
It's an angry kind of mocking or scolding.
Like, it kind of creeps me out to be here by myself.
And if these guys are freaked out to be here,
you know things got to be bad.
I saw a white mist in my station.
It was hovering towards where that wall is.
You ever see anything like that again?
Yes. I saw shadows kind of out of the corner of the eye
when I'm working.
Somebody walks into the room,
and I look up, and there's no one there.
I feel like it's a very hateful, angry energy
that is coming from this building.
The demon thing. I mean, they come and go.
What do these things look like?
There's a little one.
That one has white shiny eyes and is, like, a little person.
And then there's a big guy. Really big guy.
It seems like the devil.
He had, like, shiny soft skin,
and it was black, and he had horns.
Living people might see, like, evil-looking ****
So, Josh, I understand you're Diane's husband.
Yes.
She thinks that whatever's going on in this building
is pretty dangerous.
I mean, do you agree with that? No.
I don't really believe in that stuff.
I mean, things used to fall off the walls,
and it's annoying, but other than that,
I don't see anything.
Okay. Now, one of the main reasons she called us in
was because she's worried about you.
Are you aware of that? Yeah.
Thinks maybe you've been having some mood changes.
Anything like that going on with you?
I have bipolar, but I've been crazy all my life.
Every, like, 6 months, you get manic,
and you're depressed for a while.
Then medicine helps.
But you don't see a change in you since you've been here?
Nope. I've been the same **** a long time.
Okay.
I've always had an aggressive personality.
Things might be happening,
and they're not telling me nothing.
Well, why do you think that is?
They're afraid of the way I'm gonna act,
and they think I'll get mad or something.
Well, that brings me to another question --
Are you annoyed we're here?
A little bit, but, you know, whatever.
Alright.
These demon things come up in here.
I think that they are dangerous.
They can do attachments if they feel like it.
They look for people who are prone to addictions
or not living what they felt
was a good life,
and that's what these things jump onto and take advantage of.
They basically feel like they own anyone
and everything that comes into that space.
I mean, these things take their souls.
So, this isn't our first case in Pittsburgh,
so I already know a lot of the local experts.
One of them is a local professor who just called me.
Now, he says one of the guys who used to own Diane's property
made himself real wealthy,
but it came with a very high price.
So, Professor, you mentioned on the phone that the guy
that owned my client's property was crazy rich.
Now, who was this guy, and how did he make his money?
His name is George Bennett.
Okay.
He opens a bar in 1868
about two blocks from your client's business,
and that's how his empire got started.
But it also brings a lot of troubles to his family
and his personal life.
What kind of troubles are we talking about?
1876, he gets into a fight with one of his patrons.
Patron swings first.
George finishes the fight by knocking him down,
and he hits his head, dies of his injuries.
Okay. So was he charged with murder?
He is charged with murder,
pleads not guilty by virtue of self-defense.
He's acquitted.
I mean, did it kill his business?
No. His business grew after that.
He went into partnership with his father and brothers,
and they merged as one of the leading distributors
and producers of alcohol.
Here's an ad for his product.
Alright. So business was obviously good.
They were doing quite well.
From their sale and distribution
and manufacture of alcohol --
$83,000 in one year.
Today's money -- $2.3 million.
Okay, so, what happens after that?
In 1891, he bought your client's property.
What's he do with it?
He puts an eight-story building on it.
He used it for his business, for the distillery.
So, on the phone, you mentioned
that all this wealth came at a price.
What did you mean?
George tries to take over the entire business.
He takes his father to court,
forces his father out of the business,
and by 1907, he's managed to push all his brothers
out of the business, also.
Okay, so, when does he die?
He dies in 1912 at the age of 63.
I guess all that backstabbing caught up to him in the end.
I'm seeing the dead guy in the coffin again.
Can you tell anything about him in life?
Really a long time ago. I would say 1850s, '60s.
He imported things or something,
and then I guess he just bought land.
He owned a lot of this area.
He wanted to be rich.
He's the cause of all this, though.
He summoned those demon things.
This area that this triangle encompasses is affected.
This triangle or whatever is a result of him
selling his soul to those demon things.
Okay, so, now George Bennett's dead.
What happens to the money,
the business and my client's property?
It all goes to the wife and the surviving children.
About $16.5 million is the value of the business
and the cash in the bank. Alright.
So, what happens to my client's building at this point?
The family keeps the building,
and then there's another piece of bad luck.
Alright. So, what happened?
It breaks out in a fire that destroys the building.
Anybody die?
13 people were injured,
but, thankfully, no one died.
They ever figure out what caused the fire?
Well, the fire inspector thought it was arson,
but they could not find out who did it.
These demon things are just bad.
I don't like this. This is not good.
I'm getting, like, gas or smoke,
like, all gray and, like, thick.
There's snow on the ground, and the place is on fire.
These evil things, they did set the fire,
because they were bored.
So, I'm headed over to meet a retired cop
who's been digging through old records for me.
Now, he found out that an officer was beaten to death
150 yards from Diane's building.
He says this is a really strange case
and something that's definitely gonna be important
to my investigation.
Well, Bob, thanks for meeting with me
and helping me out with this case.
So, now, you mentioned on the phone,
cop was murdered down the street from my client's property.
What the hell happened?
On April 24, 1872, patrolman John Stacks
of the Pittsburgh Police Department
was patrolling your client's neighborhood.
He went in for lunch to a local saloon,
ordered some oysters,
and at that time, he walked out
without paying for the oysters.
So, what happened after that?
He walks out without paying.
Three men followed him outside,
and they beat him, fracturing his skull
and causing a severe brain injury.
He was beaten to death.
Three people were eventually arrested for the crime --
the bar owner, the saloon owner, Henry Bender;
William Kocher; and Samuel Golden.
Did they go to trial?
They went to trial,
and Bender and Golden were found not guilty.
Explain that to me. How did they get off on that?
There were several witnesses that were called
by the prosecution that didn't show.
They mysteriously disappeared.
That's interesting.
It's almost like Mob stuff.
Yeah.
So, help me wrap my head around this.
I find it hard to believe that an on-duty cop is whacked
because he didn't pay for oysters.
Any thoughts? Any theories?
Stacks may have been involved in some illegal activities.
Okay.
And he was known to make very physical arrests,
so he may have injured some people,
and at one point, he actually killed someone
while making an arrest. Alright.
So it's either criminal activity,
or payback is a possibility. Absolutely.
Alright, so, what happened to these three guys?
Kocher and Golden, no one knows what occurred --
what happened to them.
Now, Henry Bender became a social pariah,
and he became an alcoholic, and he lost his bar,
so he became destitute,
and he eventually died at age 43.
Karma came back to get him.
I feel sick again.
And I'm hearing, "You lying bastard!
You piece of ****
I'm gonna **** kill you!"
These voices are all yelling at the crazy guy,
who's always throwing fits.
He's like, "**** damn it, you have to believe me."
Yeah, he just remembers being outside.
Some dude hurt his head, something like that.
I think he was murdered outside. It was bad.
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So far, I've got a bunch of tough tattoo artists
scared to be at work by themselves in a building
that burned to the ground in the '30s,
but I want to see if there's anything else.
Searching through old records, I find a land developer
who used to own my client's property.
Turns out he committed suicide.
So what can make a big-shot developer
suddenly shoot himself in the chest?
I don't know, so I reached out to a board-certified genealogist
who knows all about this case.
She says the answer could be summed up
in one powerful word -- money.
Elissa, it's good to see you again.
So, I know the guy that bought my client's property
at some point killed himself over money,
but before we get to that, who was this guy?
His name was Hunt Miller.
He bought the property that your client
has expanded into in 1920. Alright.
So, what can you tell me about this guy?
He made his money in real estate,
but he also was into sports promotions
and moving-picture theaters,
and in the 1910s, '20s, that was cutting-edge stuff.
Alright. So this guy is involved in all kinds
of flashy stuff at the time.
Anything I would have heard of?
He was the manager and acting president
of the Duquesne Ice Gardens,
and he was also president of the Amateur Hockey League,
and that was the predecessor of the National Hockey League.
Alright, so this guy's got his hands
in real estate, hockey teams.
I mean, was he making good money?
For a while, he was.
In the 1920s, when he bought your client's property,
he was flying high, so to speak.
He had a wife and a teenage son.
He had a very nice home,
where he had two live-in servants.
Alright. So he's doing well.
He's got money. He's got servants.
What the hell happened?
He was involved in a sports-corruption scandal
that got really ugly.
The amateur hockey players were actually being paid,
which was against the rules.
What happens?
He actually filed for bankruptcy in 1923.
He owed over $350,000,
which in today's money, would be almost $5 million.
I know he kills himself. What went down that day?
So, he woke up one morning on August 24, 1926,
and shot himself in the chest.
He was 44 years old when he died.
This is his death certificate.
He left his wife and 15-year-old son destitute.
So, he was kind of doing really well for himself,
and then it all went downhill for this guy.
I'm seeing the crying man again.
Can you describe him?
He's just kind of small --
white shirt, button-down collar.
He has dark hair.
He was a father.
Do you know what he did here?
Something with money. Doing bad things with money.
And I'm kind of wondering about gambling a little bit,
'cause I feel like he owed money, too.
He's like, "Yeah, I was bad and cheated."
He said, "I was not a good person."
He did say, like, he **** everybody over.
Did he die here? Yes.
I want to say, like, the 1940s,
maybe the '50s.
He feels like his life was taken as a sacrifice
to these demon things.
He was just, like, crying and freaking out.
I saw several disturbing things on my walk,
but two stood out --
first, the man in the coffin who sold his soul.
He had excessive bags under his eyes,
a lot of expression lines up here from doing this.
Eyes are a little bit softer, and they were really deep.
Next, I described the three demons who collect souls.
In the corner is this guy who's in a tight ball, crying,
and then, to the left, are these three demon things.
No eyeballs. Just the sockets.
No nose. Just the openings.
They do have really sharp teeth.
Amy, is this what you saw?
Yes. That's what I saw.
Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,
we're ready to reveal our findings to each other
and our clients for the first time.
So, Amy, I'd like you to meet Diane
and her business partner, Shannon.
Now, when they opened up this tattoo parlor
a few years back with Diane's husband, Josh,
it was basically a dream come true for you guys.
Now, these two ladies are tough, right?
And so is their clientele, but everyone's scared,
so you know it's got to be bad.
In fact, the activity here is getting so physical,
these two ladies don't think it's safe to be here.
So, now that Amy knows a little bit about your situation,
I'll ask her to describe her walk for us.
So, upstairs in the middle room,
there's an older, very conscious dead male there.
I would have put him in his 60s.
He was very upset that I was here,
did not want to talk to me,
and one of the things he kept saying to me was, "Get out."
This guy is just completely insane.
He does flare up into fits of anger.
He's, like, stomping around and hitting things.
He beats on the walls.
He beats on the floors.
He stomps around.
He yells.
I hear, like, a bang.
Like, it's so loud that you think
it's a customer or a client coming in.
And you guys also have problems
with stuff flying off the wall. Yes.
We had a terrible time with our paintings.
We had to screw them onto the wall to get them to stay.
Wow. I think this guy could pose
a potential threat physically to people,
which makes me nervous.
You had your shirt tugged, right?
Tell Amy what happened.
I was sitting there, working on this guy's arm,
and I just felt the back of my sweatshirt get pulled down.
Now, all the stuff that's happening to them,
is that all this crazy guy, or is this...
Well, that does sound like him.
Yeah.
Okay, so, what else?
Next person I encountered was a dead male.
He's really upset about being here.
He cries and freaks out all the time.
He had dark hair. It was neatly cut and gelled.
White button-down shirt,
starched dress pants, nice shoes.
I actually saw an apparition of a man,
but all I saw was the back of his heels and his legs.
But he had on dress shoes --
they were black -- and pressed gray pants.
Okay.
Any idea who this guy might have been when he was alive?
I am putting him in the 1940s.
He was married, a father.
I don't know what his job was, but it had to do with money.
But I got that he did owe somebody money.
So, I couldn't tell if this was related to gambling
or something else.
He admitted to screwing over his family, his co-workers,
his friends, really everybody in his life.
He said that he was a good person,
and then he came here,
and that he kind of turned bad.
So, I got an idea of who Amy might have seen.
Now, this guy's name was Hunt Miller,
and he bought the property in 1920,
specifically the building you guys expanded into.
This guy was the president of the Duquesne Gardens,
and at the time, it was one of the largest ice hockey rinks
in the entire country.
He was also involved in theater promotion.
Now, the expert I spoke to told me that Miller was
a gambler, a real risk-taker in his investments.
But right after he bought the property,
everything went to hell for him.
First, he got caught up in a sports-corruption scandal.
So, after the scandal broke, the place went bankrupt
because of his mismanagement.
Now, you said the guy you saw owed money.
At the end of all this, Hunt owed $350,000--
the equivalent of nearly 5 million bucks today.
****
Now, this guy was so broken up about what was going on
in his life that he shot himself in the chest in 1926.
Whoops.
He was 44 years old.
I actually got ahold of his death certificate here.
He left his wife and 15-year-old son
basically destitute.
I'm curious if maybe you think
Miller might be the guy you ran into.
Yeah. I mean, it sounds like the guy.
Okay, so, what else is going on?
The next thing I ran into was very odd.
I saw a man in a coffin.
I put him in his late 60s, early 70s.
He was active in 1860s or 1870s.
He was buried in a very nice black-and-gray suit,
definitely had a lot of money.
He was in business, and they kept repeating
"importing and shipping."
I got that he owned this property
and a bunch of other pieces of property in the area.
His sole desire was that he wanted to be rich,
and he got rich by doing some very, very bad things.
It's not a whole lot to go on, but it does remind me
of one of the early owners of this property.
His name was George Bennett, and he was a ruthless businessman.
Before he bought this property,
Bennett opened up a bar a couple blocks from here.
You got that he was alive in the 1860s and '70s.
Now, in 1876, Bennett wound up getting into a fight
with one of his patrons.
Bennett hit him so hard, his head hit the pavement,
cracked his skull and killed him.
Damn.
George claimed self-defense, and the jury bought it,
so he gets acquitted.
After that, George went into business with his father
and his brothers and started selling liquor.
In 1889, they made 83,000 grand in one year, cash.
Today, it would have been $2.3 million.
Man.
So they used that money to buy this property in 1891.
George built a huge 8- story building
and operated his liquor distillery here.
This is the building that was here.
That makes sense.
Despite the success, George wasn't satisfied
splitting the profits with his family,
so he pushed them all out one by one.
Wow.
First his father, then his brothers.
He died in 1912 at the age of 63.
I was able to track down a photo of this guy.
You think this is the guy you saw in the coffin?
I had a sketch done of the person I saw.
Yeah.
You ladies tell me.
My God. Looks pretty close to me.
Yeah. I'd say so.
They look similar, for sure.
But do you think it's this guy, George Bennett?
**** yeah.
That matches, which is not good...
'cause he **** everybody.
No. I'll just tell you that.
This man in this coffin,
he's responsible for, like, the bad things here
because he brought three, like, evil entities here.
He summoned them.
They have been around causing chaos for a very long time.
They were like, "At one time, we were so bored
that we just, like, set the building on fire for fun."
Wow.
Now, in 1935,
the building burnt down to the ground.
This thing?
- This building? - Yeah.
The fire department believed it was caused by arson,
but they were never able to figure it out or who did it.
My God. That's so crazy.
They did this in the past. Can they do it now?
Yes.
So, basically, these demons were summoned by him.
He sold his soul to get everything he wanted.
They took him when he died.
They have his soul.
When they're around, I feel like the living
could experience them in a few different ways.
I think you might see them.
I'm not sure how you would interpret them, though.
Like, if they would be shadow figures or what --
I don't know.
You guys talk about shadow figures here.
It's always in my periphery,
but I sometimes feel like I'm --
Something's following me around.
They affect people mentally.
They look for people
who already have seeds of darkness in them --
addiction issues, gambling problems,
possible depression.
They identify, and then they go in, and they exploit.
And once they start, it just doesn't stop.
So, Amy, you actually hit on one of the biggest reasons
Diane called us in.
I feel like my husband gets the focus
of the weirdness or the darkness here.
Like, he just fell back into depression and anxiety
and into addiction.
You saw it, too. Right, Shannon?
Yeah. He'd be completely irrational.
The activity would tend to flare up, too,
whenever he was having bad times.
If they find somebody they're interested in,
they can attach that way.
I was afraid that something had attached to him...
Okay. ...and that it was torturing him.
It's connecting a lot of dots.
So, you said these little demon things look different.
How did they look to you?
So, I did have a sketch of what I saw.
What the ****
****
My God.
I don't know what I think about this.
I don't want them here.
I don't like it at all.
I don't want to be here right now.
I'm worried about their future activities.
They really did burn the building down.
This is not a good place to be.
I'm not feeling good at all about this.
I just had no idea it was this extreme and this bad.
So, Diane, Shannon, you both told me
you thought this place was dangerous, especially for Josh.
Now we know you were right.
What we don't know is if you can fix this
or if you need to get the hell out of here and cut your losses.
For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
The first thing would be finding a male medium who's strong
to talk to and remove the crazy guy and the crying man.
Then you're going to begin doing weekly cleansings
for 3 months,
and then monthly cleansings for a year.
Will that take care of these demon things?
No.
The negative, evil demons
are always going to be a potential threat.
Unfortunately, there's not a whole lot
that can be done about that.
So there's no way of getting rid of these little devil things?
No.
But one of the things that they did say to me
when I was down here was that they weren't interested
in the people who were here right now.
The only thing you could hope for
is that their interest in you guys stays at bay.
I'm wondering if there's anything special
we should be doing for Josh.
I would keep him out of here
until you get rid of the crazy guy
and the crying guy,
'cause all of that's gonna affect him.
So, if they do what you're telling them to do,
they should see a difference in activity, obviously, right?
Yeah.
And then people will start feeling better probably, right?
Stuff won't go flying off the wall anymore.
Correct.
And once you get rid of these two dead guys,
hopefully Josh will be feeling --
start to feel better,
and you'll want to be around him.
This could be a good thing.
Not just a paranormal fix --
This could also be a person fix.
The person that I know that he is.
Now you have to make that decision
'cause you still have a threat no matter what
that can come in at any time.
Yeah.
It's a tough decision.
Yeah.
I mean, any idea what you might do?
I think we should stay, though, and try and deal with this.
We are gonna follow Amy's advice to a "T,"
and we're gonna stick around and hope that things get better.
I'm glad to hear that. That makes us feel good.
Trust me.
I really hope Diane and Shannon follow my advice.
If they do, Josh should return to his old self,
and they can all work together,
running the tattoo shop they love so much.
Hey, guys.
Shop update.
So, we've been following all of Amy's instructions
since you guys left, and things have been great.
We moved the energies out, and we've been cleansing weekly.
Josh has also been really great.
It's really changed the way that he lives day to day.
It really has been a life-changing experience for us,
and we're so grateful.
Thank you.